Don’t bother trying to enlighten him. If in fact he’s foolish enough to try and save you, give him one warning. “ If you speak to me again as if I’m some kind of condemned lost soul or if you talk to me about your religion, I’ll be contacting the personnel department.”
Pete Zahut
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An elder has just been employed at place of employment and I’m after a lonk
by joe134cd inhello to all you good people.
an elder who i knew in my jw days has just been employed at my place of work.
now i want to be prepared for him when he encourages me to return to jehovah.
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Did your congregation have cliques?
by Lost in the fog indid your congregation have cliques?.
usually centred around two competing elders (or the elder's wife).
it could made obvious by whether you got to answer in the wt study.
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Pete Zahut
Looking back, if you were lucky there'd be a Clique in your congregation made up of the more "normal" people...the ones who were JW's but didn't go overboard about it and who liked to do things other than what was JW related. Sometimes it was only a few people in the congregation that you could relate to and the rest seemed to be misfits for one reason or another. One way or another, we always managed to be in one of those cliques and had friends from all over that were in the same kind of cliques in their areas and that's what made being a JW tolerable. The Conventions were a big Clique meet-up. What they were talking about on stage was secondary....it was all about what would happen after the assembly.
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Watching the old Rockford files again since the 70s
by mickbobcat infunny but this show has all the current events we have today, nut bar hippie cults, gay issues, and many more and i get to see the old car classics drive around.
anyone ever notice how things do not change all that much?
the big issue is so many idiots mostly left over old far hippies and young idiots who do not know how to tie their own shoe laces are imo much bigger in size than in the 70s.
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Pete Zahut
Funny but this show has all the current events we have today,
Noticed the same thing when I watch old talk shows such as Dick Cavett.
I used to love the Rockford Files as a kid. As a teen, whenever I had to make some crazy move while driving, I'd claim I learned it at the Jim Rockford School of Driving. I always thought it would be great to live in an old trailer by the sea and I've been in that parking lot in Malibu at Paradise Cove where he had his parked, a few times. There's a restaurant adjacent to it.
I always wondered how he'd would have been allowed to live there and where he had his utilities hooked up. There's an episode where someone asks him about that and he claims that California beaches are public access (or something like that).
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Do any of you still have contact with the witnesses?
by Snoozy ini have a daughter of a old witness friend that i knew since she was born.
she obviously has mental problems like her mom did so i just go with it .
she is a sweet kid but was recently hooked on pain pills bad.
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Pete Zahut
"When you see crazy coming....cross the street ! "
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2021 Annual Meeting Talk, "I Will Never Abandon You"
by RULES & REGULATIONS inthis 19 minute talk by “governing body” member samuel herd lacks enthusiasm, energy and mostly reads his script.
looks like he was forced to talk about something he no longer believes, but goes along what was written to appease the rest of the ''governing body.''.
mr. herd says, ''sometimes we have to make adjustments.
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Pete Zahut
It's amazing how Jehovah so often sends them the wrong message in the first place and then agrees with whatever change they make...until the next time.
So the last I heard, the number of those partaking of the "emblems" has been increasing every year so I presume that these ones are younger than the ones who had already partaking. If they all have to be dead before Armageddon, it seems to me there could be a bit of a wait ahead. Maybe this is why they went ahead and built those Movie Studios even though everyone else believed when they've been giving everyone the impression that the end was "right around the corner".
I'm glad to hear it because I bought a bunch of very green bananas yesterday and I'd hate to see them go to waste.
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Is Bible prophecy now starting to come true regarding the prelude to the great tribulation?
by Disillusioned JW inis bible prophecy now starting to come true regarding a prelude to the great tribulation?.
full disclosure: i still don't believe in the bible's claims about the existence of the supernatural, even of jehovah god (i'm an atheist and a scientific/philosophical naturalist), but i am asking this question because recent events are starting to seem (to me) to fit well the description of some prophecies in the bible.
consider the following.. several hours ago (on 11-26-2021) as i was about to enter a local fred meyer store of my city (in suburb or small city in the metro area of a large city) a person i know told me that a moment earlier a person left the store in a hurry with a cart load up with unpaid merchandise (i think i was told it was groceries but i don't remember that for sure).
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Pete Zahut
Is Bible prophecy now starting to come true regarding a prelude to the great tribulation?
I understand what you're saying but you have to remember you're getting your information from two skewed sources (Religion and the evening news) who are both known to have an agenda and who are both experts at playing upon peoples fears and they make big bucks doing so.
Like you, I was conditioned to see world events as a whole and as they appear to be when compared to a certain interpretation of the Bible rather than as the isolated incidents that they are.
We must be on guard against beliefs that were acquired in states of emotional arousal. Just look at the pictures in the Watchtower. They're either of utopian Paradise scenes or scenes of utter destruction taking place. Don't think they don't know what they're doing. Who wouldn't want to live forever in a magical paradise when we've been led to believe that the only option available is either be a JW or be destroyed in a worldwide cataclysmic event brought on by God. All reason and logic goes out the window when we become emotionally convinced by people who we've come to trust, that information like this is accurate.
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CO retirement severance?
by road to nowhere ina friend says the wt gives a substantial sum to retiring cos. he says one bought land and built near him, a desirable rural area.
i think it must have been saved green handshake money or inherited.. btw this man also thinks the gb are the smartest men alive..
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Really? Does anybody there have a right to depend on anybody else? I never believed they did
No of course not but for goodness sake, weren't we were supposed to be willing to die for one another? Does anybody have the right to expect that or depend upon it happening? According to JW's, Yes they do.
The organization has no problem making people feel warm and fuzzy by leading them to believe that they're "Protected" within the Congregation and they're part of a "Worldwide Brotherhood". They give the appearance of being "Johnny on the Spot" when natural disasters hit when in reality they're after insurance money. Theres a mixed message. They advise JW's to quit their Jobs and Pioneer and Jehovah will provide. Then someones electricity is turned off, it's their own fault. We'll die for you but don't ask us to pay for your electricity because you decided to be a Pioneer and didn't earn enough money this month.
At least the Mormons have funds set aside for their members when they get in trouble and give them assistance in finding work when they're unemployed. An old JW couple in their 70 who have no Social Security because they were in the Circuit work their whole lives, without the help of the Congregation, are up a creek with no paddle.
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CO retirement severance?
by road to nowhere ina friend says the wt gives a substantial sum to retiring cos. he says one bought land and built near him, a desirable rural area.
i think it must have been saved green handshake money or inherited.. btw this man also thinks the gb are the smartest men alive..
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Pete Zahut
Back around 2004 there was an elderly C.O. and his wife in our Congregation. He left the work at 70 because of health problems and was assigned to our congregation. They had no Social Security so he took a job as a school bus driver and his wife got a job as a perfume "sniper" at the mall, spraying people and handing out perfume samples.
They drove an old Ford Fiesta (death trap) and lived in an older flimsily built Mobile Home in a not so nice mobile home park. I used to help them fix things because he had no skills in terms of household repairs because he had been in the Circuit work since he was young. Consequently, their place was falling apart. She had to plug the garbage disposal into an extension cord and plug it into an outlet in another room because the switch didn't work. Their dining room light hadn't worked for years and the carpet was threadbare.
I'm pretty handy in all of the trades and she called me over there because someone had given her some used carpet and she wanted me to install it for them. I looked at the carpet pieces and there wasn't enough to do the job and besides that is was in bad shape. She began sobbing because it seems that one of he husband's old Gilead school buddies from back in the day had called and wanted to visit but he was too ashamed of their home to let him come. This used carpet was her only hope of making their home better.
It broke my heart to see this sweet old lady so upset about her husbands embarrassment. I was able to get them some new carpet and install it and they were thrilled. I got all the electrical problems solved and spiffed the place up for them. He came home from work and was like a little kid who just got a new toy. He was so happy with the new carpet and to be able to switch on lights that hadn't worked in years. They viewd ME as being sent by Jehovah. Little did they know that in my mind, I was condemning their beloved organization for letting this happen to this old couple while they lived in grandeur in New York City.
That being said, unless things have changed for the better, these folks are turned out once they are of no value to the organization. Theres an imaginary brotherhood that exists and it makes you feel warm and fuzzy when things are going ok. Once any real tangible help is needed for any length of time, you're on your own.
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Pete Zahut
Hummmpf....thinks she can wear tight pants like that and get everlasting life too. At least they're not yoga pants.
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QUESTION of the DAY (a brain teaser)
by Terry inquestion of the dayeach man chosen of the twelve jesus selected had been called disciples, or "students" (meaning "one who learns").
(latin discipulus; greek μαθητής mathētḗs; hebrew לִמּוּד limmûdh;jesus is stated in the bible to have sent out the twelve using a new description: apostles, "whom he also named apostles" (luke 6:13), first before his death "to the lost sheep of israel" (matthew 10), and after his (resurrection to spread the message of the good news to all nations (matthew 28:16-28:20).with the above firmly in mind, the question arises: “why aren’t the governing body called apostles?”.
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Pete Zahut
I think if you posed this question to them they'd tell you that individually they are Apostles of Christ (as are all JW's) but are also an individual member of the Governing Body. They believe that they are the "faithful and discrete slave" spoken of in the Bible and that they are Apostles of Jesus who were directed by him to form this group and oversee his belongings.